Showing posts with label Hell. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Hell. Show all posts

November 11, 2010

I was asked if I believe in hell... by Phil Liszewski

by Phil Liszewski


Jesus came to the lost sheep of Israel. He was never preaching to the gentiles!

All his preaching was done in stories and parables, and many of those were specifically directed at the Teachers of the Law. Everything to do with prophecy had to do with them, and the end of the age was when the temple was finally destroyed, and the Jewish Law passed away with it. You can't read scripture without first understanding who it was written to. Paul brought his message to the gentiles, who were never under the Jewish Law. And Jews kept going in behind him and trying to bring the converts under law. He also was writing his letters before the judgment came and the Parousia. 

The second coming of the Lord was never going to be a literal flesh and body return...God is Spirit and those who worship him must do so in spirit. The symbolism of the clouds, represents the spirit, just as the fire represents purification. Once the Parousia came, The Holy Spirit became indwelling for all men, and the Kingdom of Heaven arrived. It has been here for all who would enter, ever since. There are so many deeper meanings within the scriptures when you understand them from the spiritual mentality instead of the flesh mentality. 

You can see God's will for mankind all the way through the prophets to Revelation. We've been taught condemnation, and so that is what we see. In the garden of Eden, God told Adam, "the day you eat of this fruit, you will surely die." Yet the bible goes on to record him living many more years and bearing children. But THE DAY he ate of it, God came calling and ADAM WAS HIDING. That shame...THAT is what we are saved from through Christ.

Every single reference to hell in the OT...is to Sheol, the grave. Not hell. King James was stuck in their religion, and that doctrine by then was too ingrained. In the NT, they also translated Hades that way. But Hades is just the Greek word for Sheol. Then they translated Gehenna to hell. Gehenna is the fire pit where the garbage and those who couldn't afford burial were burned. It's also where the Israelites sacrificed their babies to other gods, and where the bodies were burned after the taking of Jerusalem in 70 AD. 

Today it looks alot more like this:



There was never any concept of eternal torment in the OT. It was just the grave, where they awaited the Messiah. Along about the first or second century BC the Pharisees started accepting the doctrine as it was understood by the Greeks, and they had already been exposed to it in Babylon and by the Assyrians. They had often taken the doctrines and gods of those who were their neighbors.

So it was with the backdrop of the Pharisees teaching that doctrine that Christ used his parables. And parables they were, because the scripture teaches us that he spoke everything in parables except to his closest disciples. I personally believe the Gospel of John was written with a manuscript of some of these more personal teachings, because there is a stark difference between the accounts of Mark and John in his public teaching. In John he is constantly proclaiming himself as Messiah. In Mark, he NEVER does so, only in private. To me, it is the only thing that makes sense for what Judah betrayed him with. They weren't paying him to show them the location of where he was at, he was available to them anytime and they could easily have had him followed. They needed information to charge him with, and guess what they charged him with? Proclaiming himself Messiah. THAT is what Judas betrayed him with, imo.

Anyway, I digress. The Lake of Fire. Fire. Strongs Exhaustive Concordance word #4442. 'pu'...to purify. Look it up for yourself, don't take my word for it. 




by Phil Liszewski

November 2, 2010

Hell Has Been "Big Business" For Centuries! By Rev. Dennis Caldwell

By Rev. Dennis Caldwell
http://www.not1lost.blogspot.com/

High Noon, October 31, In 1517 - Pope Leo X, empty-pocketed and needing funds to rebuild St. Peter’s basilica, issued a special “sale” of indulgences. The very word “indulgence” tends to convey dubious moral connotations, but these indulgences were particularly questionable. What was an “indulgence”? It was a special sort of forgiveness for sins issued by the pope in consideration of various acts of merit, in this case donations to Leo’s treasury. Indulgences could even be “purchased” on behalf of loved ones in purgatory.Dominican friar Johann Tetzel became the pontiff’s peddler, a P. T. Barnum traveling around with a brass-bound chest, a bag of printed receipts, and an enormous cross draped with a papal banner. Whenever Tetzel came to a town, church bells peeled, crowds gathered, and street performers kicked up their heels. Tetzel would set up shop in the nave of the local church, open his bags, and shout, “I have here the passports to lead the human soul to the celestial joys of Paradise. As soon as the coin rings in the bowl, the soul for whom it is paid will fly from purgatory and straight to heaven.”He usually exceeded his quota.

Morgan, R. J. (2000). On this day : 265 amazing and inspiring stories about saints, martyrs & heroes (electronic ed.). Nashville: Thomas Nelson Publishers.

By Rev. Dennis Caldwell
http://www.not1lost.blogspot.com/
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October 14, 2010

Do most Christians believe that the majority of humans go to Hell?

Do most Christians believe that the majority of humans go to Hell?  I would say Yes, but just because something is popular, doesn't make it true! 

What we read at face value in the English language is often misunderstood and completely different then the intended meaning back then...There are 100's of Hebrew idioms / figures of speech, that most Christians read at face value in English, but these "figures of speech carried a completely different meaning to their original audience!

Consider a popular American figure of speech... "it's raining like cats and dogs out there". If you translate that into French and a French person reads it, they are going to think something is seriously wrong with the weather in America! LOL In many cases, this is just like what has happened to the Bible... people are reading these ancient figures of speech at face value and completely missing it's original meaning! 

Another thing is that down through the years, translators have used their doctrinal bias when translating certain words... one great example is the Greek word Aion, which is often times translated as "forever" or "world", but in those ancient times the word Aion meant Age (period of time). As in when we read that God was going to destroy the "world', what it is really talking about was the end of the Old Covenant Age / system. (Forever is best translated as "for the age"... a period of time, not forever as we tend to think of it!)

Another great example if I may is found in John 15:18-25... the infamous, "the world is going to hate Jesus and His disciples", passage. Preachers tell us this means the unbelievers of our "world" are going to hate us because we believe / follow Jesus, but if we read the passage carefully, especially verses 23-25, we can see that the "world" is NOT talking about unbelievers or the physical planet, but rather the Pharisees / religious teachers back then hating Jesus and His disciples!

Open up your Bible and take a look at John 15:25... it says the "world" hated Jesus because it was written IN THEIR LAW to do so! This is a clear reference to the Jews of that time and the Mosaic Law, not unbelievers as we are taught that this passage says!

More on topic... "hell" is another such term that has been taken completely out of it's ancient context. If I may suggest 2 great articles on the topic for those who wish to look into this further.

These articles are not meant to provide all the answers, but rather to point you to deeper truths not taught within the church system, nor understood by them. Ultimately, the best way to learn these things is too seek the Lord for deeper understanding and let HIM teach you. 

Seek first the Kingdom of God and then all shall be given (and revealed) to you... truth is not taught, it is revealed by the Spirit within us!

Thanks for reading - Peace be in you!