May 15, 2011

Digging Deeper Into The True Meaning Of Fornication

Christianity tells us that Fornication is any sex outside of marriage...

Now I'm a very sexually oriented guy, always have been and God has done nothing to squelch my hormones since I started getting to know Him. Personally I believe that we are not under Law (Gentiles never have been) and as Paul puts it, "All things are allowed me, but not all things are beneficial". 1 Corinthians 10:23

Now, Christianity puts great guilt trips on people with the no fornication bit and since this blog and myself in general are all about researching digging deeper into what the Bible actually says in it's original languages, I decided to start digging deeper into the meaning of Fornication.

Why... well two fold... one because I'm a truth seeker... I like to know what the Bible really says, not what preachers say it says and two, well to be blunt, I'm searching for a girlfriend and yes I'd like to get laid without having to get married to do so... not that I'm against getting married, but the last thing I want to do is get married to the wrong lady just because  my body needed sex, ya know. Far too many Christians do that as is... have a short relationship and go get hitched and find out soon enough they aren't compatible in all the real areas of importance. You know Christians have a higher divorce rate then non-Christians??? Yea, it's true... research it for yourself.

Well, back on topic... so I started looking up the keywords of fornication and Jewish meaning on Google... it was the Jewish Old Covenant Law whereby we discern sin, right? So I'm looking and I find the Hebrew word Zanah is the one that is translated into the English word fornication - 33 times by the KJV (the NASB by comparison uses the word fornication only 4 times in the entire Bible... interesting, huh?)

So I look up the Hebrew word Zanah in a reliable Lexicon and find something pretty interesting... the word is a verb first off and it has to do with committing adultery (cheating on your spouse), having sex with prostitutes and having sex with prostitutes in pagan religious worship.  (Dig deeper for yourself... I linked to one Lexicon, I used 3 of them though to get the full meaning)

Hmmmm, sounds just a tad bit different then 2 single consenting adults having sex before they get married, doesn't it? In fact, sounds just a tad bit different (sarcastic) then all the stuff that churches teach us it means. What a surprise, huh?

Dig deeper folks... what you hear from the church is often not what the Bible says, but rather is traditions that are handed down from generation to generation... and unfortunately very very few people bother to dig deeper for themselves!

Till next time... peace!




Fascinating Dave, and factual ;)
However, that doesn't help the married guy much who has been "shafted" by his wife, and has no love life at all. And, just think of a 'preacher' or 'pastor' trying to go that route, he'll probably be open to great scrutiny and ridicule. But other than that, practice "safe" sex, and use protection and don't have babies before the time! LOL
Great article, and informative. ;)

George said...

The "christian" community as far as I have seen in my 55 years of life are ALL Fornicators!!!! They claim to be married to Jesus but they sleep with Moses!!!


Anonymous said...

The truth behind that word "fornication" is since we are no longer under the "law" it does not pertain to us. The fornication in the new testatement and the book of revelations is speaking about the individuals who are supposed to be "married to christ" yet sleeping around with the prostitute religions and churches of the world. We are spiritually married to Jesus when we have been saved.

Anonymous said...

You're out of your mind! "You are those who justify yourselves before men, but God knows your hearts. For what is highly esteemed among men is an abomination before God." How dare you qualify your sins as God-justified. You don't give a damn about anything or anyone but yourself. All you want is to use a woman for your self-gratification because you don't want to commit - because it "might be the wrong lady?" You're not about commitment! "But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, ...boasters, proud, blasphemers, ... unholy, unloving,... without self-control, ... despisers of good,... haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away. For of this sort are those who creep into households and make captives of gullible women loaded down with sins, led away by various lusts, always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the Truth." 2 Tim 2:17 NKJV

What part of Galatians 5:19-21 do you not get? Or even more, that of l Cor 6:12-18 & 7:1-2. You quote l Cor 10: 23 completely out of context & fail to mention what comes right after it. l Cor 10:24 states: Let no one seek his own but each one the other's well-being. Like that's exactly what you're not doing by just seeking to get laid. You're only seeking your own selfish well-being. l Cor 10:23 is exactly like l Cor 6:12 & gives absolutely no validity to your blindness. Those verses have to do with edification. In other words, does what you're seeking assist in your spiritual development; will it edify you or another; or will it bring you into spiritual bondage & further plummet you into darkness. Verse 13, which you also left out of your self justification says " Foods for the stomach & the stomach for foods, but God will destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for sexual Immorality but for the Lord and the Lord for the body." The prevalent thought in Corinth was Sex was for the body just like food was for the stomach. But Paul states in verse 13 something completely different!

IF you are a follower of Jesus Christ your body is NOT your own. It no longer belongs to you ''for you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body & in your spirit, which are God's." (vs 20)

Therefore IF you belong to Christ, you are ONE body with Christ. "Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall l then take the members of Christ & make them members of a harlot? .... Or do you not know that he who is joined {Sexually - like getting laid} to a harlot is ONE body with her? For the two, He says, shall become ONE flesh. But he who is joined to the Lord is ONE spirit with Him." (vss 15-17) So what you're doing is joining your ONE flesh body in Christ to a harlot just because you don't want a commitment so you can get laid all you want, when you want & to whomever you want..... Christ be damned... Wow....

It is a vile thing to presume upon the Grace of God & attribute to Him your sins as though it is His Word. Jesus calls attributing the things of Satan as tho they were the things of God, blasphemy.

Let me introduce you to the Doctrine of Depravity: "To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled & unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind & conscience are defiled. They profess to know God but in works [your actions] they deny Him, being abominable, disobedient, and disqualified..." Titus 1:15-16 NKJV

The ONLY God you serve is the one hanging between your legs - and I pray God you didn't name it Jesus.

Anonymous said...

P.s. God says "be ye holy because I AM holy!" He did NOT say "be ye horny because you don't like My definition of fornication." I guess while you are of this world, get it while you can because in the next world your boys are going to be on fire with the very hell flames you'll be thrown in to...

Celia said...

l was doing a search on fornication & adultery & came across the page on this blog. I agree with Anonymous. This is blasphemy - the preaching of a false gospel.

1 Thes 4:1-8
"...just as you received from us how you ought to walk and to please God; for you know what Commandments we gave you through the LORD Jesus. *For this is the WILL OF GOD,* your sanctification: that you should abstain from sexual immorality; that each of you should know how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor, not in passion of lust, like [those] who do not know God; that no one should take advantage of and defraud his brother in this matter, because the LORD is the Avenger of all such... For GOD did not call us to uncleanness, but in holiness. **Therefore he who rejects this does not reject man, but GOD** Who has also given us His Holy Spirit."

1. IF you are a True born-again believer, you have received the Commandments of GOD in His Word - and you KNOW them because He has revealed them and you have received them.
2. It Is the WILL OF GOD that you be sanctified - or set apart. And being Sanctified, you will abstain from ALL forms of sexual immorality.
3. Because you are sanctified, you should know how to possess your own vessel IN Sanctification and honor. This means that you, through the power of the Holy Spirit which resides in you (if He truly does), will seek to have mastery over your body - NOT to carry on in the passion of lust *like those who do not know God. When the body is in control the mind is not engaged. Once you eliminate the mind from the process, all that is left is the lust of the body.
4. You are not to act like the godless pagans with rampant and uncontrolled lust. Doing so is typical of UNREGENERATE people. You cannot purposely behave like a heathen & name the Name of Christ.
5. Behaving like a Whoremonger is to take advantage of others for your own self-pleasure. GOD will avenge the defrauding of another who has His Spirit. To defraud another means to selfishly and greedily take something at the expense of another. In ALL sexual sins GOD is the One Who exacts judgment.
6. GOD did not call you to *uncleanness* but to holiness. Sexual immorality is considered BY GOD unclean. Unholy.
7. You're playing the blame game- blaming the preachers of abstinence for squashing your manhood by trying to put a guilt trip on you. What's worse is you have stated GOD is responsible for your immorality because He has done nothing to squelch your hormones. Really you have not rejected man's teaching but rather you have rejected GOD's Word.**

You embrace 'Eros' - not 'Agape.' Eros, a Greek word, is a love that desires to have or possess. Basically it is self-centered in nature. A person who is totally controlled by Eros enters a relationship to seize only what he desires. You are operating on a body-feeling level only which is totally characteristic of the unregenerate. You're not operating out of a renewed mind. You're advocating no restraint. You are a slave to lust & immorality - and in continuing to do so, GOD will give you over (cf Romans 1:18-32).

Exposing your trash theology to the godless voyeur continues to engender their lust for lust. To the brand new Christian who stumbles upon your site, who do not know or understand fully the Word of GOD, you lead astray and link the members of Christ to a harlot.

Pagans live to serve the god of sex. They have no thought for holy conduct and are driven by their lust into the bowels of hell.

Sexual sin disregards GOD; ignores His holiness; spurns and rejects His will; defies His Commands; rejects His love; presumes on His Grace; abuses His mercy; is disobedient, selfish ingratitude - and GOD will avenge it.

Count on it.
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Dave Lewerenz said...

Not surprising to see the angry comments... such is what happens when you feel guilt and guilt is produced by religion, not God / Jesus.

The two Laws of Jesus are pretty simple... Love God, Love people.

Hence why Jesus constantly battle the religious leadership of His day about them being so judgmental.

Love & Peace & Truth... truth sets you free from religion.

tillie van biljon said...

One thing that I have learnt this year is that someone who truly has Jesus does not get easily offended, it's a sign of a true Christian and they certainly respond with love opposed to condemnation and hate. As someone who is seeking the truth I'm disappointed by this reply which I read about 2 seconds of.

tillie van biljon said...

Again, in my experience true Christians are the ones who don't get easily offended, fornication is debated but what the bible certainly teaches is for us not to act on our anger... Where is Gods love in this aweful reply

tillie van biljon said...

Amen to this, wow that is so true about religion vs Jesus!!!

Anonymous said...

Ok..... if fonication is termed to be sex between unmarried couples nd aldutery-sex outside ones marriage, how do we explain the heroes in the bible and the concubines.......again christainity forbids marriage of more than 1 wife wen even Abraham the father of isreal had several wifes nd ........nd samson wasn't married to delila..... Religion thou

Zero Tolerance Music Group said...

What if you've been living with someone you plan on marrying but just haven't married yet?